Republicans: what do you think of these quotes by (socialist forebear) founding father Thomas Paine?

Thomas Paine helped to raise support for a popular revolt against the UK, and in turn, he can be seen as a founding father…however, he had many opinions conservatives may disagree with, such as:

"To create a national fund, out of which there shall be paid to every person, when arrived at the age of twenty-one years, the sum of fifteen pounds sterling, as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property"

"It is from the Bible that man has learned cruelty, rapine and murder; for the belief of a cruel God makes a cruel man."

"The Christian system of religion is an outrage on common sense."

he believed in socialist justice, a pension system paid for by land owners to non land-owners; and believed in that land distribution amongst the poor was a "natural right".

cons…what do you think?
sources cited here:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2009/4/12/31114/7356

http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/paine.htm

http://www.thomaspaine.org/Archives/agjst.html
in response to Lou:

Ak da, ya deystvetel’no (oh yes I really do)

9 Responses to “Republicans: what do you think of these quotes by (socialist forebear) founding father Thomas Paine?”

  1. Li Says:

    my words are you are great !

  2. Hank Says:

    evil has always existed

  3. The Magic Honkey Says:

    I think like all founding fathers there are some ideas he had that I don’t agree with.
    He is spot on about the bible sh*t but get a job and buy your own land.
    So you want to give up any inheritance you might have coming for 15 bucks????

  4. §§pecial Unicorn™ Says:

    I disagree with him on many of his viewpoints–however, oddly enough, you never had to WONDER what those viewpoints were. If the current administration had no problem with what they are doing, why do they DENY their goal??

  5. DavidH Says:

    I think that as an American, he had the right to his own opinion; there was a huge amount of dissent among the Founding Fathers as to the guiding philosophies that became our Constitution and our system of government. Like today, no one was in complete agreement with anyone else.

    Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr were completely at odds with one another, as were Adams and Jefferson. I agree with Adams on most points and disagree with Jefferson; I agree with Burr more than Hamilton – but it is the freedom to express opinions without fear of persecution that is important here, not the opinions themselves.

    What kind of answer did you expect?

  6. General lee Says:

    I agree muslims suck! and so does this dribble that’s why his ideas failed then and Obama is failing now. the good cowboy in the white hat always trumps the one in black at the end. pay attention.

  7. Bethy Says:

    Common Sense (1776)

    After influences and age had dulled his wit he did start his socialism (1790s)

    He died in 1809 with no power and very few connections only having 6 people at his funeral

    So in like 14 years he changed his opinion

    Heck, arlen specter in less then a year voted with the democrats only 12% of the time all the way to 90% of the time.

    And your talking almost a decade and a half?

  8. Lou Says:

    kid wake up, former communist Pionero here so I KNOW communism socialism first hand!

    socialism/communism does NOT work, it kills competition, self-made people, progress, it encourages "just sit and wait for the goverment pay check" attituded, it encourages laziness, etc!

    ….communism/socialism "no trabaja" (does not work)! i know I lived in one the first 14 years of my life and luckily escaped to come here and finally be able to LIVE!

    tu no sabes lo que tienes viviendo aqui!!!!!….(you don’t know what you have living here kid!!!!!!)

  9. orgthingy Says:

    he had leftist-ideas (economically) but not really socialist..actually, if you look closely, Marx/Engels were only there in late 19th century

    Leftist-economics don’t necessarly mean "Socialism", but americans don’t really see the difference